It isn’t typical to get a behind the scenes look at a music video, but then the pairing of Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift for her track End Game isn’t exactly typical.

The pair chat about everything from how the collaboration came about to matters of height, while we get some great insight into the making of high-budget music videos. Oh, and tips on how to avoid extras leaking your song ahead of time, by using just a basic click track for their dance scenes.

Here’s the BtS, with the full video beneath that.

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